Clint Van Zandt - former FBI Criminal Profiler, Hostage Negotiator, and current TV and News Media Crime Analyst

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Update: The Threat to High Profile People and Presidents

John Wilkes Booth assassinates President Lincoln, April 14,1865

Like most Americans, I watched with a sense of awe as 47-year-old Barack Obama, the child of a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya, was elected as this nation's 44th President. As a white American, I can only guess at the sense of pride that African Americans must feel with Obama's election; the first black man to reach an office that many thought would forever be the domain of white males only. I also wonder why any man or woman would aspire to an office that demanded so much of them to obtain, and even more once they actually achieved their hard fought goal. In the case of President elect Obama, I also fear that there are those already plotting his political and perhaps physical downfall. While millions felt pride and saw hope realized in Obama's election, what one black centenarian called "the victory of faith over fear," I know from experience there will be others who are frightened by the thought of his presidency. Some so scared that they could, in the extreme, act out against the man so many Americans and other citizens of the world are hoping and praying will lead us into the second decade of the 21st century, out of the two wars and away from the doorstep of national financial disaster. A tall task for anyone to accomplish.

While November 4, 2008, will forever be remembered as the day America elected its first black President, it was remembered in Israel as the 13th anniversary of the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. Those who strike out against high profile public figures like John Lennon (and later George Harrison) do so many times for the fame and notoriety they believe they'll gain from committing such a terrible act, while those who attack political and religious leaders like Rabin, Julius Caesar, Czar Nicholas II, Martin Luther King, Pope John Paul II, Indira Gandhi (and her son and successor Rajiv), Anwar Sadat, Benigno Aquino, Benazir Bhutto, Presidential candidate Robert Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield, William McKinley and JFK do so, it seems, out of political motivation or for some twisted ideological or psychological purpose understood only by the assassin him/herself.

Some may believe that they can stop a movement by ending a life, while others understand that by martyring such a leader the movement they tried to stop ultimately will became even more powerful. Most know the 5,000 Agent strong US Secret Service (USSS) is charged, among its many responsibilities, with the protection of the President, Vice President, and their immediate families. Studies by that agency, the University of Zurich and others have found that attempts on the life on a major political leader are seldom random acts and, in fact, the assassins usually spend a great amount of time planning for their crime of the century. In these same studies it was found that while movies portray a Lee Harvey Oswald type of assassin using a high powered rifle from a long distance to carry out his terrible mission, in reality over 51% of such attempts involve the use of a handgun and 15% use a knife, suggesting that the assailant usually tries to get close to his target before he strikes. This is one reason why we see everyone who attends a rally or public affair with a high profile figure in attendance required to pass through a metal detector.

Where you could once walk right up to the front door of the White House, knock, and stand a 50/50 chance of actually speaking to the President, we are now kept at ever increasing long distances from the person we elect to lead our nation. Presidents may fear the loss of contact with the people they represent even more that the occasional psychotic that might try to harm them, but law enforcement, especially the USSS, must remain vigilant at all times knowing full well the painful lessons they have learned from attempts on the lives of men known as POTUS (President of the United States).

President George W. Bush is said to have a public approval rating hovering around 26% and should you choose to listen to some of the vitriol talk show hosts across this land spend their time ranting about the current President, you know what hatred sounds like. At least you think you do, that is, until you come across someone who is fearful, truly fearful as he spews his hatred for another man, especially when the target of his combined fear and hate is linked to a person's race or ethnicity. After all, on 12/15/08 a reporter in Iraq got close enough to President Bush to throw two shoes at the President. Fortunately the President saw the shoes coming and the throws were a little bit high and to the right. Some noted, however, that it took a significant amount of time for the USSS to respond to the shoe assailant, not expecting someone to, as the President indicated, "show him his sole (soul)."

It was in the mid 1980's when, as an FBI hostage negotiator, I came up against a heavily armed right wing, neo-Nazi religious survivalist group in rural Arkansas. In our attempts to convince the dozens of armed men, women and children to surrender their weapons and come out of their compound, we heard and saw the fear and hatred some harbored against Jews, blacks, and federal agents. When, after 4 ½ days, we were finally able to convince the group to surrender without a shot being fired, we undertook a search of their large, multi-acre compound. In addition to firearms and explosives, we found a large barrel of liquid cyanide. When I asked the purpose of the poison, I was told the group planned to dump it into the water system of a large urban city to kill black Americans. (How the cyanide would know to leave whites alone appeared to be a question they had forgotten to ask themselves.)

While the Obama Presidency carries the hope of healing the racial divide that has separated this country for so long, there will be those who somehow turn their fear of change and something new into a hatred so strong that it could be capable of striking out against the person they fear the most. Seventeen Presidents and Presidents elect have been targeted by assassins, including our last seven. In the last three months alone, two self-identified sets of neo-Nazi skinheads have attempted to hatch some harebrained plot that would have targeted the now President elect. In the latest case two young men who met on a hate group website, both lacking common sense and filled with hatred, spray-painted swastikas on the side of their car while planning to dress in white top hats and tuxedos and drive across the country shooting black Americans. Their ultimate goal? To kill America's black presidential candidate. In fact, according to the AP, Barack Obama has received more threats than any other President-elect in US history. In one Maine general store, patrons could pay a dollar to sign up for a money pool in which the winner would be the one who picked the date the new President would be killed!

Although law enforcement has successfully infiltrated hate groups such as the KKK, other groups exist across this country, small groups of even smaller minded people that will not like the idea of an African American President. A recent network television special looked inside one such group and found that hatred was alive and well, much like that found in black groups that have similar feelings toward white people. While these fringe of the fringe groups are alive and well, they are usually not too smart, but no matter whether you identify with white power, black power, or some other type of domestic terrorist group, anyone can get lucky and get too close to the President. Consider, for example, the two attempts on the life of President Gerald Ford in 1975, once by Squeaky Fromme and once by Sara Jane Moore, both of whom were armed with handguns and both who got close enough to the President to threaten his life. It was Lincoln, afterall, who suggested that if someone wanted to kill him (as President) and was willing to give up his life to do so he could probably succeed.

Fear and hate can drive someone to almost anything, including murder. When someone becomes the focal point of years of fear and hate, such a fearful, hateful person may stop at nothing to attack what he believes to be the root cause for his fear, even believing, like Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber, that he was doing something good for the country, an act for which history would eventually honor him.

Next in line are the Giuseppe Zangaras' of the world. Zangara was the five foot tall man who, in 1933 while standing on a chair in his attempt to assassinate President Franklin Roosevelt, shot five people, including Chicago Mayor Anton Cermac, with the mayor later dying of his wounds. Zangara's reason for his attack: he hated capitalists and, as he stated, "I don't like no peoples." It was the ghost of assassinated President William McKinley that 36-year-old John Schrank said told him to kill Theodore Roosevelt in 1912. Schrank got close enough to Roosevelt at a Milwaukee speaking engagement to hit his victim in the chest with one pistol round that punched through Roosevelt's 100-page speech and glass case. Although the bullet finally lodged in Roosevelt's lung, he stayed long enough to give his 90-minute speech before going to the hospital to be treated for his potentially life threatening wound.

I have concerns for the life of every person who takes the public stage, especially when he assumes the leadership of a country with such mixed political, religious, social and racial issues as seen in America. All of the negative political campaigning the last two years has not helped either, with both candidates for President giving us cause to fear the other challenger. Now that the race is over and we have our winner, the paint of fear that has been splashed on both candidates will not easily wash off. Many will remember the things said about our President elect and a few could take such political rhetoric so serious that they may come to believe they have some contorted patriotic duty, or just mental illness, to physically confront our new President.

Taking any untoward action against our President elect or a seated or former President should never be seen as a viable solution to personal conflict, but only as a way to make 300 million Americans suffer. As a country it is time for us to heal, not to suffer even more strife and pain. Our national hope and prayer should be for the safety of our public officials and those who protect them and that we, as citizens, would be quick to tell the authorities about a budding John Wilkes Booth, or Arthur Bremer, or Lee Oswald, or John Hinckley, Jr. As Americans, the ballot box and not the dagger, the bullet or the bomb must always be our choice when we seek political and social change.

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Reply#1 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 6:35 AM EST
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Unfortunately, I think this article is preaching to the choir. Any lunatic mentally unstable enough to think an attempt on the president's life is the way to accomplish change is certainly not reading (or paying attention to) logical statements such as Mr. Van Zandt's.

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Reply#2 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:16 AM EST
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I was 15 years old when, JFK was assassinated, the first of the leaders who were able to inspire and connect with the people, during that time..  Each time I see President Elect Obama, stand up on a podium or mingle with a crowd, I hold my breath and say a prayer for him and his lovely family.  Back then, we were a pretty obedient lot. The world has changed so much. If the unthinkable would happen, this time, more than tears would be shed. Thanks for your article.

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Reply#3 - Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:31 AM EST
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emersontwain,

Short of placing our President and his family in a bullet proof bubble for the next 4 years, this is the terrible price one must consider when he or she runs for such a high offer. As in many of our past elections, our current President elect won with a little over 1/2 of the country supporting him.  What does the other half think and do, and what about the intervention of those outside our country, like the man who allegedly threw a grenade at our current President as he visited the former Soviet Republic of Georgia.

I believe you are right though in that any attempt on the new President would bring more than tears.  Your prayers are right in this matter.

CVZ

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Reply#4 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:19 AM EST
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Thank you CVZ, As a white Vietnam Veteran who voted for and fully support President Obama, I have hope and must depend on the professional Secret Service to keep him safe. President Barack Obama is a brave and smart man with an over-whelming task ahead of him to save our country, the country that I Love.

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Reply#5 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:41 AM EST
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Rixar13,

I share your race, your Vietnam Vet status, and your hope for the man for whom this country must place so much trust and hope in for the next 4 years.  If he fails so do all of us...

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#5.1 - Wed Dec 3, 2008 6:56 AM EST
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Welcome home and thank you both for putting yourselves in harms way for us so we can be naive.  You Vets are the only ones who know what that truly means, but with all my heart, I thank you.

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#5.2 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 12:04 AM EST
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Clint, your article has great value to all of us, as does your background and willingness to share with such passion.

I'm curious about one thing. In all of your experience, have you seen any pattern in which an organization - say, the CIA - has undertaken to incite an unstable person to commit a violent act against a prominent public figure? I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but it seems logical that an organization that wants reliable cover for an outrageous act might find it in a psychotic personality.

If there is that possibility, we need to make sure that our vetting process in organizations that have power appointed to them is especially robust. We all assume that our intelligence community is limited to just that role: gathering intelligence. But there are well documented cases in the past in which the CIA, for example, has manipulated situations in foreign countries. We need to make sure that is not happening on our behalf, anywhere in the world... especially domestically.

In some ways, Mr. Obama's strategy of bi-partisan appointments is brilliant. He could succeed in cooling down many people who have been fired up against him, while he recognizes a common starting point from which all of us can progress.

But let us also be extremely vigilant within our internal political structures. Et tu, Brute?

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Reply#7 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 7:24 AM EST
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RGonz,

Maybe like yourself, I don't put anything beyond the reach of those who want to do harm, either on an individual basis or a world level.  While not possessing any information about the CIA or any other three letter government intelligence agency that would such such an agency ever did what you suggest, I have no doubt that such has been the case in various corners of our world and could be laid at the feet of various governments.

As we see in Chicago today with Illinois' governor, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.  It was about 50 years ago that a famous west coast chief of police said that the only problem with hiring police officers is that we have to take them from the human race.  This is true, of course, for all agencies and governments and the people that work for such agencies.  We've seen movies like the "Manchurian Candidate" that dramatize what you are talking about and there are obviously ways to manipulate human beings to do your will (of course getting my children to clean their rooms when they were young was another matter...)

Many thanks for your comments and I hope you continue to read the column.

Be Safe!

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#7.1 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 12:33 PM EST
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Donna,

Poverty alone, like being dropped on one's head when one was a child, does not, in and of itself explain criminal behavior.  I know one family with four children, the first boy is a career criminal, the next son a police officer, the first daughter a concert piano player, and the second daughter a wonderful wife of a graduate of West Point.  If all 4 children grew up in the same house with the same parents and the same opportunity, what happened to the criminal son.  I can suggest he wasn't as smart as his siblings so this is how he became his own man, how he got attention, and/or on and on.  Many people are able to pull themselves up via their bootstraps from terrible conditions as a child.  I know many great adults that were poor as dirt, and great women who were abused, like their male counterparts, as children, yet went on to be good citizens.

I think Johnson's great society, perhaps Roosevelt before him, and others have tried to alleviate poverty without success.  We are told that the poor will always be with us, no reason to accept this, but it is, sadly, true.  Is it harder to succeed in life when you are poor and hungry, probably so, but we all make choices.  I can never give someone a pass on being a criminal, especially an abuser of women and children (and men too...) simply because life was tough on them.  Yes, many child molesters were molested themselves as children, but others were not.  I wish we could attribute aberrant behavior to something like poverty and then wipe poverty out, but that alone is not the answer.  For me, too many men abdicate their responsibilities as husbands and fathers.  1/2 the marriages in this country, to include that of my parents, end in divorce.  Far too many children grow up in one parent families with no role models, finding them on the street, many times street crooks, instead of a father who worked hard, came home, love his family, read his children books, played board games with them, checked their homework, and tucked them into bed.  If all men would accept responsibility for the children they sire, then and only then to I think this world would start to turn around.

How do we change the world?  One person doing one good deed at a time.

Best!

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Reply#9 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:50 PM EST
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I'm kind of a fan of neurological studies and brain science. There are some very interesting ideas about the criminal mind, especially in brain science. Just as some parts of the brain can be identified as centers of musical talent, math skills, language abilities, so can certain parts of the brain be identified with criminal tendencies - even violence.

Again, I remain watchful for the gentleman who has the arch-clever kind of criminal mind, and will take advantage of the brute mind to do his dirty work. That gets to be very dangerous for society.

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#9.2 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:09 AM EST
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Ah, but don't forget, the Devil can be a most charming liar. Don't forget to go with your gut!

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    #9.3 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:50 AM EST
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    Donna Doreen, LOL, I think every family in every generation has one of those. The one in my family and the one in my best friends family, both even have the same name.

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      #9.4 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:55 AM EST
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      I think the biggest crime in child abuse is that to cover it up, the abuser actually takes the childs soul.  They convice the child that they are the guity ones and that the abuser's behaviour is the correct behavior. They also recreate history and deny any memory that the child may have as imagination or dreams, till the child conveniently forgets, so that they will be safe and learns to accept the abuser and his behavior as appropriate.  The child is taught to love monsters.  Many truly abused children and adults will waffle back and forth about whether their memories are true.  To remember is to be alone and unloved. To forget is to be safe. Later in life, they choose to be either a victim or a perp.  I think your brother is trying to medicate himself and continualy go through what was done to him, and make it all come out differently. He and you have my prayers.

      CVZ sorry to get off topic.

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        #9.6 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:12 AM EST
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        Emerson,

        Like discussed above, there are many reasons for human behavior.  For one, I'm surprised we don't see more people like those you reference, this if all we humans fall into a standard bell curve of behavior.  Again we can choose to do good or bad on a minute by minute, day by day basis.  Every day we get to choose.  Some of us just continue to make bad choices, believing we are the sun and everyone else are planets that revolve around us.  Some waht 15 minutes of fame, some are true believers, some are mentally challenged, and some just had a bad hair day.  That's what makes human beings interesting, exciting, and challenging to understand.

        Be Safe!

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        Reply#10 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:54 PM EST
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        CVZ thanks for you answer. You are very good to take the time with us! 

        I was married to a man, like the one in the family you spoke of.  He had a good upbringing with kind and intelligent parents. His sister was and RN and very stable. He, however, lied about everything. Maybe a little truth to keep you guessing. He was very smart and could do almost anything he put his mind to.

         There was this wierd rythym to his  behaviour.   Every, two to three weeks he would get in somekind of trouble. Small stuff. But every October he would do something that would get him put in jail.  I stayed with the marriage for 7 years. Still don't know how I got there. The whole thing felt like a hostage situation.  Got very dangerous when I did go.  I bet this sounds familiar to you. But, it still puzzles me.

        Had to hide for quite a while. That is when I found that all his stories were true, just that they belonged to other people.  It still makes me shudder.

        It must be very difficult and exhausting to be around all that evil. Since, like you say, so much will never be unexplainable it must get frustrating.  But so glad for you and all profilers, it takes instinct and education, and experience all together I would guess. Profiling has made so much difference, especially with the camelions like some of the serial killers and pedophiles. How would anyone ever see what was right before there eyes. I didn't for years. I think you must have a special gift and a deep goodness.

         Really appreciate your wisdom. Thanks again, Emerson.

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        #10.1 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:42 AM EST
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        PGonz,

        As you consider the "who" you should also consider the "why" of crime.  When you get a moment, see my past article on the motives behind the crime, the "why" we all seek.  It can be found at http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/11481546/.  You can also see other articles on various criminal topics in the column on the right of this article.

        Be Safe!

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        Reply#11 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:54 AM EST
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        Thanks so much, Clint! Fascinating! And it makes me wonder if some of these loonies are surprised when nobody figures out who they are. There's that thing that psychologists always say about criminals; they somehow want to get caught.

        Which brings me back to the original topic. As a profiler, you must be able to read people who are not necessarily committing crimes, but may have that tendency. I taught at a private school where they might have been cheating to get more federal grants and loans for their students. I didn't know anything about those systems, but the owners of the school always seemed kind of shady to me. About a year after I quit, there were a couple of guys in FBI suits on my front step one day. They asked a bunch of questions about the school and how it was run. I couldn't really answer with much detail, but it showed that my instincts were correct.

        Thanks!

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        #11.1 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:54 PM EST
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        Donna,

        Yours is a question that many have ask of me.  If there is such thing as a bad seed, is there anything we, as family members, could do to change the person?  My bottom line is that everyone gets to make choices in life and we cannot make the choices for them.  If a friend or relative consistently makes bad choices, we need to hold them personally responsible for such choices.  If you look at the arrest records of many criminals, some such records are pages long dating from their early childhood.  They were charged with their offenses, ones they were caught at anyway, but they just kept on offending.  It was their choice.  You and I make choices every day and, as a pastor in a church I attended once said, "We awake every day knowing that the greatest sin (or crime) that we will ever commit could take place on this day."  Choice is ours and we must, like the old carpenter, measure twice and cut once.

        Best,

        CVZ 

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        #11.3 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:53 PM EST
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        Donna,

        They are part of us, no matter what they do.  We just wish better for them...

        CVZ

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        #11.5 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:48 AM EST
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