Clint Van Zandt - former FBI Criminal Profiler, Hostage Negotiator, and current TV and News Media Crime Analyst

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Update: Guns don't kill people, children kill people...

.22 cal rifle

Police in the small Arizona town of St. Johns, population 3,865, are still trying to determine the motive for a double homicide committed there last week by an 8-year-old boy. Evidently the youth's father had remarried just two months ago and had sought the opinion of a local priest concerning teaching his son to shoot a .22 caliber rifle. This apparently was the same weapon used by the young man to shoot and kill his 29-year-old father and a 38-year-old coworker of his father who rented a room in their home. After the boy told a neighbor he thought his father was dead, police were called and found one man dead on the second floor of the home and a second dead just outside of the front door of the residence. Both victims had been shot in the head and chest. Authorities are now considering charging the 8-year-old as an adult, something that state law would evidently allow.

According the new local police chief who commands the 10-officer department, the young suspect did not have a disciplinary record in his local school and he was no problem in religion classes, noting he was to make his First Communion later this year. Evidently there were domestic violence complaint calls to the residence, but these may be related to problems in the father's former marriage, and while the shooter's mother had recently visited him, she resided in another state and did not share custody of the boy with his father. The youthful shooter did indicate that he had been spanked the night before the double murder and the boy's biological mother, who divorced from his father six years ago but says she visits her son monthly from Mississippi, says her son stated that his father and new step mother argued frequently.

A read of FBI statistics indicates that homicides by children younger than eleven are extremely rare, with three each in the years 2003 – 2005 and none in 2005-2007, this when murders across America numbered about 16,500 each year. Going back even further, from 1976 to 2005 sixty-two children between 7 and 8 were arrested for murder, only two of which had a parent as a victim. So who, other than the diminutive shooter, is responsible for these two deaths and why? The local police chief has said the murders were premeditated and his department was looking into suggestions of child abuse, something other members of the large, extended family deny was taking place. There seems to be no question as to "the who" in this case; the real question is "the why."

In most cases concerning young killers, the motive usually involves a mental illness, or extreme physical or emotional abuse of the child killer, or evidence that the killer was a budding sociopath or psychopath, although some would argue that one so young could not exhibit behavior associated with the sociopathic personality. But why, his community asks, did this otherwise average young boy intentionally work the bolt on his gun at least four times to kick out a spent round and load a fresh round into the rifle's chamber, ready to be methodically fired one at a time into his two victims.

As in similar matters involving violence and murder by a child, most will try to round up the usual suspects. What violent video games did the young boy play, games that give points for human kills, and what violent movies did he watch; those that portray violence, especially gun violence, as an acceptable form of conflict resolution? Ninety percent of children in America ages 8-16 spend at least 15 hours per week playing video games and research suggests that playing violence-based video games can makes children more aggressive and violent in real life. The shooter's mother indicated her son played video games non-stop.

A recent study looked at both American and Japanese kids and found that when children are exposed to violent video games, they become more violent over time, believing the world is a dangerous place and learning that violence can be the key to survival. But if this is true, why don't more children, young men and women who have become desensitized to human suffering by means of such games, pick up guns and kill? And what about children who witness, on the average, 8,000 TV murders by the time they complete elementary school and watch 200,000 violent acts (16,000 murders) by the time they reach age 18? Ninety-nine percent of American homes have one or more TV sets, 2/3's of which have 3+ TVs of which one or more runs seven hours per day. Children in these homes watch TV for 1,680 minutes per week while having meaningful conversation with their parents for just 3.5 minutes in the same week.

Children eight and under really cannot tell the difference between reality and fantasy, making them vulnerable to believing what they see on TV and in games, in this case murder and mayhem is normal in American life. One 17-year long study found that teenage boys who grew up watching long hours of TV every day were more likely to commit acts of violence than their peers who watched less TV.

As this has been the season, a l-o-n-g season, for politics, most recall the name of Bill Ayers, the alleged non-repentant domestic terrorist who, in 1969, allegedly suggested that children should kill their parents and indicated his belief that teenage murderers should not be held responsible for their crimes. He later indicated he was joking concerning the distribution of wealth in America, but once those words leave your mouth, like episodes of "I Love Lucy" floating around in outer space, they can haunt you forever. Every citizen is responsible for his words, and those who make and sell violent video games and violent movies need to take some responsible for the actions that their games and films encourage in others.

This takes me back to one of my earlier questions. If violent videos and movies contribute to violent behavior, why don't all of us shoot those we dislike or who otherwise get in our way? The socialization process tries to balance out the violence that we see on TV, the movies, and in the games some play. As far as gun related violence in the home, much of what we see and hear about can be prevented by simply locking up our guns and keeping ammunition and guns separate. How, for example, did this 8-year-old manage to get his hands on the .22 rifle he used to commit this double murder? Many, like me, grew up in a home in which firearms were maintained. As an FBI Agent, I taught my wife and children to handle firearms and how to render them safe, as well as to avoid those who flaunted their access to guns. Gun safes or at least trigger locks should be the rule in any home in which one or more of the estimated 280,000,000 American guns can be found.

But did this young man kill because of some secret abuse he had undergone in his home, a plight many children have had to endure in their own homes, noting that the 2006 Child Maltreatment Report indicates that 220,000 cases of "known or substantiated" child and teenage physical and sexual abuse were reported that year, what some believe to be just the tip of the "child abuse iceberg." Or was he flailing his emotional arms in anger, fear, or confusion at the new home situation he encountered, or did he simply lack the ability to separate what he saw on TV and perhaps played in video games from real life and death? The young shooter may not be able to answer these questions himself and as far as premeditation, where were his parents and family members as he allegedly planned this act?

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the teenage shooters at Colorado's Columbine HS, murdered 12 and wounded 23 in 1999 before committing suicide. Some have suggested that their parents should have know what they were up to, but again, how much time do we, as parents, actually spend with our children vs. using the TV as an in-house babysitter? Should, or could this young man's parents have suspected; we just don't know. Should the court decide not to charge him as an 8-year-old adult, as a juvenile he can still be held until he reaches 18, meaning even as a child he could be in custody for the next decade. Meanwhile the slight boy is brought into court in shackles with the security belt looped around his little waist three times because of his size. No childsize belts were available for someone so small.

If this youthful killer was truly unable to tell the difference between fantasy and reality, should he be held to the adult standard, and penalty, for homicide, a double homicide in this case, or should he remain in juvenile custody as both he, and his caregivers, try to understand the what and why of his actions? To try him as an adult, the prosecution would need prove a number of things. The youthful shooter understood the charges against him, he understood court and trial proceedings, he was able to assist in his own defense, and the prosecutor would also need to somehow prove the young shooter could not be rehabilitated by the time he turned 18; therefore the need to keep him incarcerated as an adult. Yet another case requiring the wisdom of Solomon from our criminal justice system. What is really right for the community, society, and one small boy who may not fully appreciate the reality and finality of his actions?

UPDATE 2/20/09

While the charges against the now 9-year-old suspected killer have been resolved in a courtroom with a simple guilty plea to one count of negligent homicide, the "why" of this cases continues to baffle most who know about it. Why did this young man take up a gun against his father and a male renter, shooting both to death with head shots?

While the defense attorney in this case says the public will never get to know the details, the "why" of this double murder, some details, nonetheless, continue to come out. The plea covered the shooting death of the 38-year-old male renter while the charge related to the murder of the young shooter's 29-year-old father was dropped. His plea also prevented him from being tried as an adult and keeps him out of the state's juvenile corrections system, leaving the county juvenile system or, perhaps, outpatient mental health care as his "sentence." By not pleading to the murder of his father, he was also spared the emotional scare, say some, of having to admit to the killing of his dad to himself. "Come on." Even at eight or nine he now knows he shot and killed his dad, whether he says so in open court or not! Others, including family members of the two victims believe the case centered more on the diminutive shooter than his two victims.

The now convicted killer will undergo extensive mental health evaluations designed to determine if he is a continuing threat to himself or to the community. It will be these results that will be used to determine when and if he will be allowed to continue his education outside of the home where he now resides with his mother. His step mother and her two daughters had openly objected to the plea deal.

But the question of "why" still hangs in the air unanswered. One possible answer may have leaked from the young boy's mouth during an interview by a child protective services worker, this when he stated, "his 1,000th spanking would be his last." While those in the neighborhood and community saw the boy's father, Vincent Romero, as loving and caring, once again the old adage "you never know what goes on behind closed doors," may provide some answer as to why such a young person would commit such a terrible crime.

Yet another Terrible Story:

February 2009 saw yet another terrible shooting of a family member by a child. This time it was in rural Wampum, PA, where 11-year-old Jordan Brown was charged as an adult (thus the release of his name) for the shotgun murder of his father's 8-month pregnant girlfriend, Kenzie Marie Houk. Brown, who was said to be "consumed with jealousy" because of the amount of attention his father was giving to Houk and the baby boy she was carrying, allegedly, with premeditation, took his own .20 gauge shotgun into Houk's bedroom and shot her in the head as she lay sleeping. He then calmly caught the bus to school, later telling authorities a contrived tale of a mysterious black vehicle that was linked to the murder.

It was Houk's 4-year-old daughter that first found her mother's dead body, and her 7-year-old daughter that told police it was Brown who shot her mom. Brown, who is said to have threatened to harm Houk in the past, has been charged with a double homicide, this for the murder of his father's girlfriend and her unborn child. As history down through the ages has shown, what some people will do in a fit of jealousy, even children, really knows no limits. While some have referred to the boy as "a bad seed," others question those responsible for cultivating and raising "the seed." Something in his own emotional DNA, and/or in the minds and hands of those charged with raising him, something went terribly, terribly wrong. And the signs and sounds of a killer to be were simply not responded to in the proper manner, and for this, two lives were taken and others were left emotionally scared for life.

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{"commentId":4007825,"authorDomain":"Blearc"}

As far as this case is concerned, I'm hoping that we don't hear about it until its done.  I'm really sick of the caley stories.  Its a private matter for now.

But the problem has more to do than just with video games.  It has to do with a withdrawl from personal interaction all together.  "Don't you talk to my child" has been going on for decades and has been causing a across the board fear in our populous.  How are kids supposed to know who to turn to for help if there is not a village?  When parents get too wrapped up in being afraid of some guy named Ayres, and Russia, and speak with such hatred about these subjects, what is a kid to do?  And no church is not the answer, there is hate abounding there as well.

So that bratty kid next door that pisses  you off?  Grit your teeth and talk to him.  Let him know your a safe person to talk to.  That way when his parents stop talking to him, you don't get hit by a stray bullet.

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    Reply#1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:22 PM EST
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    An 8 year old does not have the mental capablity of an adult. At 8 years your world is full of discoveries. How it works, you do not know. All you do is try the things you see.  Adults, in general, seem to lack the ability to remember what it's like to be an 8 year old.

    A child is a product of its environment. This 8 year old is a product of an adult environment which is not kid friendly. The responsiblity of the events lies with the adults not with the child.

    The most rational approach is to classify the case as an accident and start adult education.  It shows an adult environment out of control yet the child is blamed.  Much like putting the milk  in front of the cat and demand it doesn't drink...

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    Reply#2 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:42 AM EST
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    Blearc is, like many of us, tired of the Calee Anthony story but many others want to see justice and Leonard Padea, the bounty Hunter and self-described "media whore," seems to continue to fuel this story because of the attention it gets him.  The one person who can answer the what and why's of this story, Casey Anthony, really has no reason to answer any questions as to do so would simply send her to prison, even for accidential death of the child at her mother's hands.

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    Reply#3 - Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:55 PM EST
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    This is an absolute shame. It seems that he was abused and abandoned. A  combination of physical and mental abuse. The big Q is - and WHY was he taught how to use a gun? My god, the Amish and hunters don't even teach them that young. I would imagine that it is illegal to teach a youngster such a thing AND keep the ammunition either where that young child knew where to get it or have the gun laying around loaded- whichever it may be.

    We don't have all the facts except that this boy was holding some awful sadness or temper inside not demonstrated in school or church.

    I guess the father deserved to die- teaching a very immature boy (murderer) how to use the weapon and feeding him with violent television and beating him. This motherless abused boy is not guilty by the fact that he is too young to make mature decisions. He needs years of counseling in a facility that hopefully will teach him love and understanding.

    Barb in Tahoe

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      Reply#4 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:02 PM EST
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      The boy applied self-defense in an hostile environment. What he needs is a set of loving caring parents asap.

      Some of these comments are staggering.

      I just wonder if people can remember what it is like to be 8 years old? and abused?

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      Reply#5 - Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:05 AM EST
      {"commentId":4229721,"authorDomain":"caroaber"}

      There is no way this child should be tried as an adult. It would not happen in NY state.

      Do such young children have the mental capacity to form intent?

      He may wind up confined in a residential treatment facility. I hope he gets some help.

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      Reply#6 - Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:17 AM EST
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      Many have complained that the young boy was allowed to leave his custodial facility and spend Thanksgiving (still under supervision) with his mother.  There is still much to be explained about this tragic shooting and with two dead, the emotional survival of this young boy is now on the line.  I hope that he can somehow be saved from himself and his actions.  If not, consider the anger and emotions that could consume him when he is finally released from custody.

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      Reply#7 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:27 AM EST
      {"commentId":4244908,"authorDomain":"whyfactor"}

      Raising a house full of boys, I hope, has given me some perspective. Here is what I observed, my son's committed at least one 'unspeakable' act a year, that made me keep my head down, and not want to answer, are you R..'s Mom?

      My children each thought they were the center of the universe until they became interested in girls. At 8 years old, I do not believe they knew what death was. It just meant something STOPPED.

      I haven't heard that this 8year old was torturing cats, or was anti social. I think, the situation, divorce would be enough for him to take the changes and the pain as his responsibility and decide to make it STOP.  It is interesting that he had recently been visiting with his mother.  If the boy was taunted by the father and the boarder, or the mother was being critisized, that may have been enough to cause an 8 year old boy to pick up a gun, which was a familiar object to him for Stopping.  I hope he is allowed to be tried as a minor and is committed to a good facillity that will help him get the guidence and counciling he will need, when he is old enough to realize what he has done. 

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        #7.1 - Mon Dec 1, 2008 9:18 AM EST
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        emersontwain,

        The good news so far is that he will in fact be handled as a youth and not as an adult.  I too raised children, and the boys committed, at least later in life confessed to committing, acts that caused my head to shake.  They are now adults, good citizens, and have children of their own to love and contend with - oh, the joys of being a grandparent...

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        #7.2 - Wed Dec 3, 2008 6:53 AM EST
        {"commentId":4318335,"authorDomain":"whyfactor"}

        Thanks for the update. I am so glad. He definitly will need a lot of help.  My boys are also grown, and now I have granddaughters.  How cool is that?  It's the icing on the cake.

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          #7.3 - Sat Dec 6, 2008 1:56 AM EST
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          {"commentId":4322153,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

          In my case I get to see my children challenged by their children with them asking, "how did you do it with us?"

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            Reply#8 - Sat Dec 6, 2008 12:05 PM EST
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