Clint Van Zandt - former FBI Criminal Profiler, Hostage Negotiator, and current TV and News Media Crime Analyst

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Update - Who can a Woman Trust: The Disappearance of Laura Garza

Laura Garza

Michael Mele

Although at 25 years of age Laura Garza was no stranger to life, she was new to New York City, a place that appeared to hold out the promise of fun and adventure for the young woman who moved to the Big Apple from McAllen, Texas just five months ago. A local New York neighbor, when asked about the missing woman, indicated she just didn't seem to have her guard up like most New Yorkers do, suggesting she might have been too trusting and too naïve for what one club goer called "the predatory spirit found in New York City night clubs." Letting your guard down can prove to be fatal, and that is what police fear for the beautiful woman that left an upscale Manhattan club, one usually populated by the rich, the famous, and the want-to-be's, at 4 AM this past Wednesday with two men, really strangers she had just met. (See The Today Show for 12/8/08.)

Fatal Mistakes

Garza may have made a number of fatal mistakes, including one made by many women who have become victims of sexual predators in similar situations. Garza came to the bar with a friend, but she left her friend to be with a man she had just met, someone she otherwise knew nothing about. As Tom Cruise's character learned in the movie "Top Gun," you never leave your wingman, the person who would have your best interest at heart. This was a lesson also learned the hard way by 18-year-old Natalee Holloway in Aruba and Imette St. Guillen, the 24-year-old criminal justice graduate student who, in early 2006, made a fatal error in judgment; she too trusted the wrong man with equally deadly results.

Physical evidence and the man behind the Mask

The known physical evidence appears to implicate the man that Garza left the bar with, 23-year-old registered sex offender Michael Mele, the son of a former deputy chief of police, in her disappearance and suspected violent death. Garza had no way of knowing that Mele had recently been convicted of at least four (known) sex offenses and assaults on women in open shopping mall parking lots. She didn't know that Mele allegedly ran up to his selected female victims, all which police indicated had something in common, suggesting Mele was a preferential predator, i.e., he knew the type of victims he wanted and he went after them. She didn't know he had terrorized his victims, masturbating in front of them, leaving his semen on the clothing of the frightened women, women that will never get out of their car again without looking around in fear. And Garza likely never suspected that the man she left the bar with that early morning had plead down his sex offense charges to forcible touching and endangering the welfare of a child (one of his victims was a 16-year-old girl) for which this son-of-a-cop got six years probation, but not one second in prison. Where was the one strike law when we needed it for this offender who displayed such sexually aggressive behavior toward his victims, with likely more victims yet to be identified?

Statements from others in the bar that night, to include Mele's friend, and review of cellular telephone records and video tapes from the bar show Mele dancing and embracing Garza and then show her leaving the bar with him, something he initially denied to police. Evidence confirms that she left with Mele at 4 AM and got into a car with him and his friend, the latter of whom would eventually leave the two to go to Mele's apartment alone. Mele would soon tell his friend that he was in trouble and that his friend should not talk to police, obviously not the actions of an innocent man.

When Garza was reported as missing, the police quickly went looking for Mele. When they found him he had scratches on his neck, bite marks on his hands, and had allegedly scrubbed out his car and apartment with bleach, this with the assistance of his unknowing girlfriend. He also cut out a large piece of his carpet, indicating that he had accidentally spilled bleach on it, a piece large enough, some say, to wrap around the body of a 5'2", 120 lb. woman like Garza. Witnesses indicate Mele frantically cleaned and vacuumed his car and apartment the morning of Garza's disappearance, eventually disposing of the vacuum cleaner, one that could contain physical evidence related to the missing woman.

In their search for Garza police have found a machete, a woman's shoe and other items of clothing that could be related to the victim, some of which were recovered from a nearby dumpster he was seen going through. Evidence of blood was found in Mele's SUV, one he had parked at his parents' home, and blood was also found by police in his apartment. DNA should quickly tell police if the blood and other physical evidence confirm what investigators already believe, that Mele took Garza to his apartment where he may have assaulted and murdered her, then took her remains to a yet to be discovered body disposal site. Should this be the case, investigators will attempt to determine where his car was the morning of Garza's disappearance and where a man in panic would go to dispose of a body. Divers are in the pond behind his apartment in case he chose a site close by. Although now in police custody for violation of his probation, he is represented by counsel and is not discussing his role in the disappearance and possible death of Garza. I have no doubt that other young girls and women, after seeing Mele's photo and reading about his actions, will come forward to identify him as their previously unidentified assailant. Too late, I fear, for Laura Garza.

Others who trusted too Much

Natalee Holloway is believed to have been the victim of one or more of the three men she left an Aruban bar with the last night she was seen on this earth. Imette St. Guillen told her wingman that she wanted to stay at the bar until its 4 AM closing time. Her nude body was found over 16 hours later, raped, strangled, a sock stuffed in her mouth, her windpipe crushed and her broken form concealed in a cheap bedspread, her emotionless face wrapped with clear packing tape, her hair cut and other injuries just too terrible to discuss. Darryl Littlejohn, a bouncer at the Soho bar she had left, someone whose lies had convinced St. Guillen that he was a federal agent, was seen helping the victim into his van after she left the bar and has been charged with her brutal murder.

Take time out to check him Out

New York City has been the site of almost 480 murders this year, a pace that could surpass last year's total number of 496 murders, noting that there is a homicide somewhere in the United States every 31 minutes. But what could Garza have done not to have become the suspected victim of a sexual predator, someone who apparently changed his MO from targeting women out of doors to going after them inside of bars. Garza, like other women in a similar situation, could have given herself 12-24 hours before she accompanied someone she had just met, no matter how charming and handsome the potential suitor/predator might be. Had she searched Mele's name on the Internet, she would have found a news blurb dated April 4, 2008, indicating that her new friend, Michael Mele, age 22, had been added to the New York State Sex Offender Registry following a sex offense conviction and that he was on six years probation. She could also have asked her wingman to take a cell phone picture of her and Mele. This would insure that he knew that others knew who he was and that he was with the victim, perhaps a think twice action.

The opinion of your friends and family are equally important as are the personal vibes you get from the new person in your life. A reader of this column made a good observation that it is also important to at least make the new person your facebook and myspace friend, this in order to confirm that they are who they say they are, and that a group of people know them. This would also provide you a good look at their online itneractions and groups they join, so if it feels wrong then you can just revert to only online friends or deleting/blocking them if their profiles are offensive. The reader continued that if the guy looks too good, and he's throwing around too much money, you should be careful of your interactions with him. Remember that a predator will attempt to identify a likely victim by isolating her from her friends and encouraging her to go beyond the limits she's set for herself, this like a lion stalking a herd of gazelles, looking for the one he can cut from the herd and attack. (Last, I want to be careful here. This is not "blame the victim," as Laura is surely not responsible for what terrible act may have befallen her. All I am saying is what should a person in her position should consider as she makes such a decision.)

Lies and Murder

Too many people tell too many lies to too many other people. If over 50% of people lie on resumes, what do they say in a bar late at night? Although some married men and women do kill their spouses, think of Scott Peterson or the allegations concerning Drew Peterson or the pastor's wife who shotgunned her allegedly abusive husband to death. We also know that thousands of people hook up for one or two night stands or begin dating without murder as a consequence, but between STD's and sexual predators, it's worth the few extra hours to make a preliminary check on the person with whom you are considering sharing yourself. While those with STD's may not be the subject of a news media article, criminals usually are. In Garza's case, she may simply have accepted a ride home and found herself in a situation from which she could not escape, and the true personality of her new friend, like that of Jekyll and Hyde, then revealed its hidden self. Meanwhile her friends, family and investigators continue to await DNA results and the decision made in a moment late at night on the part of two people, the suspected killer and his trusting victim, may have led to the death of yet another person with so much potential, a life lost due to a little too much trust in one's fellow man.

It was the philosopher and poet George Santayana who said "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it," hence his "Aphorism on Repetitive Consequences." How do you explain a man who has such a sense of personal entitlement that he uses his charm to endear himself to a woman and then demands physical access to her. If rebuffed, he sees this as such an overwhelming narcissistic attack that he vents his anger and rage on his now victim in an attempt to force compliance with his will or as a means to punish "the offender" for her lack of compliance. Once he has vented, he finally see the results of his actions, and then, like millions in history before him, attempts to cover up his evil deed while denying any wrongdoing on his part, a reaction that dates back to the time of Cain and Abel. When will we ever learn?

Update

12/10/08: Mele, who told his friend that he might be in trouble because the girl he was with the night before had been reported missing, this a full 8 hours before Garza was actually reported to be missing, is being held on $300,000 bond. Interestingly enough, he is also being held on a parole violation for not telling his probation officer he had moved from his parents' home to his own apartment, and then there are the three sex-offender therapy sessions that he also missed. Without a doubt, this is a guy who should have attended these classes and paid attention. As investigators, we have interviewed many sex offenders who said they'd do anything asked of them to get out of jail, and re-offend again.

Reports suggests that at least a dozen women, in addition to the four who recently identified Mele as their sexual assailant, have come forward to say that they too were victims of sexual assault by him. With this extensive history of aberrant behavior, police now have at least two other tasks in addition to their search for Mele's latest believed victim, Laura Garza. They need to continue to identify additional living victims and start the grim task of comparing missing person and dead body reports with the activities of this suspect. At his age he probably didn't begin this assaultive behavior within the past year and there is a strong possibility there will be yet other victims. If responsible for Garza's disappearance and murder, is this the first time he killed, or will police find yet other victims? Meanwhile police will use his cell phone records (pings) and credit card receipts to track his recent activity in an attempt to find Garza as well as try to match him up with cases involving other known or suspected victims.

Although innocent until proven guilty, this is a guy who looks, walks and acts as if he's guilty. And shame on the so-called psychic who is telling Garza's family that she's alive, injured and under a bridge. Police, of course, are looking under look all nearby bridges, but it would appear that her chances of being alive are slim. A word to the wise: don't put your faith in psychics who spin such trash to the families of victims who are desperate for any good news. Statistically, no matter what they tell you, they don't work. For the "true believers" out there, please consider my article entitled "Psychic Detectives and the Search for Truth," available at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7295650/.

Update: 12/14/08: Police say they have found a bleached section of carpet along Route 17 in Bloomingburg, NY, that appears to be similar to a piece of carpet missing from Michael Mele's apartment in nearby Wallkill. This location is only about 1/4 mile from a location known to be frequented by Mele. Other items of potential evidence were found in the same area. This is now a major search area for police in their search for the missing and presumed dead victim. Meanwhile information continues to be developed concerning Mele's background that suggests he could be capable of such an offense.

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{"commentId":4340687,"authorDomain":"caroaber"}

Michael Mele is, in some respects, not a solo actor.

He is the son of retired MTA Assistant Deputy Police Chief William Mele, who accompanied the suspect when he turned himself in to the state police in Newburgh, NY last Friday afternoon. Also present was an attorney. The 23 year old suspect and probationer drives an Infiniti SUV and has an apartment in Wallkill, NY. These are significant possessions for someone so young, especially someone who has a criminal record. I can't help but believe that this suspect was being financially carried by his father.

None of the press reports I've seen have identified the "wingman" Mele went clubbing with. But as a friend of the suspect and a source of potential information, it would be helpful to put this man in the spotlight. So, too, should the current girlfriend of Mele be identified. She was given the odd task of helping to clean up his apartment. The added pressure of being linked to a police investigation might loosen their lips.

The theory that Mele was giving Garza a lift home has flaws. Ms. Garza lived in Brooklyn, yet she was ostensibly taken to Orange county, a significant distance from NYC, at least an hour's drive. (I commute to NYC from Beacon, NY, in Dutchess county, right across the river from Orange.) Was she awake for the ride? Did she consent to travel, and did she not recognize the landmarks (the Major Deegan Expressway to the thruway to the Tappan Zee Bridge, or perhaps the NJ Turnpike, Garden State Parkway, route 17) that surely signaled that she was no longer in NYC? Was she already captive during the trip, or was she disarmed by the charming young man with the expensive ride?

Because of several recent high-profile abductions of women from NYC hotspots, the Marquee club had already installed new high-tech cameras. These caught the last known images of Ms. Garza, and copies were burned and handed over to police. The NYCPD is lucky to have this evidence, and Mr. Mele cannot dispute that he left the club with Ms. Garza, as this has been recorded and preserved. But why shield the identity of his friend, who may have played a role in this caper, or known of Mele's convictions?

I am a parent, and I understand the reflex to protect one's child. But I want to know if Mr. Mele, the elder, arranged for the attorney and advised his son on how the police would handle him. For now, the suspect is in a Rockland county jail for drinking at the nightspot, a probation violation. But one can't help but expect that in the days to come and as the evidence mounts--the missing section of carpet, the vacuum cleaner, the woman's shoe found in the apartment, the underwear recovered from a nearby dumpster, any trace DNA recovered from the Infiniti SUV--this case will no longer be a missing person investigation, but something much more sinister.

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Reply#1 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:43 AM EST
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caroaber,

Your scenario re the potential ride home is very logical.  As indicated in the article, I try not to find ways to discuss the case that could be seen as blaming the victim (not that you are) as the believed assailant, and not the victim, is responsible for his individual actions (see my new last paragraph in the article.)

This should be a slam/dunk case, but prosecutors, investigators and defense attorneys alike know there are few such cases, especially when high priced legal counsel come in.  Many parents, when faced with such a situation, either want to believe their child innocent or refuse to accept the child's role, or will simply do anything to save the child they have otherwise tried so hard to negatively enable for their entire life.  As Saddam Hussein said, "you do not choose your children," but, in his case and that of others, we do help to make them what they are.

Be Safe!

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#1.1 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 9:18 AM EST
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Well, Mele (Jr.) owned a local franchise and was known to have money. I also understand that his father is best known for his lawsuit against the MTA...which may be where he got some of the money to start his franchise, but none of this is really relevant. His parents are doing what most would do if confronted with the same situation.

I often ran into Mele on a daily basis. He was a stunning charmer. You could have told me 100 other people I know did this and I would be less surprised than I am now. Clearly this man has a serious and dangerous problem. He functioned very, very well on a daily basis. I would have gone out with him and wouldn't have considered him a stranger! (Thank goodness my looks may not have been up to his standards!)

Just a note about the ride home, the informant (who I am pleasantly shocked that the police are witholding his name) told investigators that the 2 were kissing and laughing when they dropped him off in Newburgh so I doubt that Laura was told she was being taken home.

I am floored by this whole thing, losing sleep, trying to understand it all. I never will, I'm not sure Mele ever will, he is sick. A sick that has been proven time and time again to be incurable. I am so saddened by this case, I just hope they find Laura soon and (at worst) give her family some closure.

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#1.2 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 8:39 PM EST
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Actual as I have stated in the Natalie Holloway case and others, you never leave a bar with someone you don't know.  9 times out of 10 the person is assaulted or killed.  Yes, I blame the victim for her lack of judgement as to who she is going to leave with.  I don't care if the guy wasn't a sex offender, why would you leave with this guy?  Do I blame the suspect if he did something?  Of course, but women should know better by now. 

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    Reply#2 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 4:40 PM EST
    {"commentId":4349545,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

    Valhallaarwen,

    Should have known better should not play a part in the assault or murder of a victim, but, as you state, it often does.  In Aruba I think Natalie could have been slipped a date rape drug that further frustrated her ability to detect a potentially dangerous situation.  Her friends say they asked her not to go, but she did anyway.  The world is just someplace you just always need be on the alert, from the hotels in India to the bars of NYC.  We have short term memory in such things and in a few weeks or so people will be making similar decisions all over again.

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    #2.1 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 6:43 PM EST
    {"commentId":4587287,"authorDomain":"booshes67-freak"}

    Aw c'mon.  Every romantic movie in the last 20 years shows a woman meeting astrange man and falling in love.  The majority of rapes in the US are aquaintance rapes, where the victim knows the assailant.  The biggest con artist in the history of America, madoff, was "well known, by his victims.  I dont buy this "stranger" scenario that people are blaming the victim for.  We live is a sick society.  There are stories where fathers, brothers, cousins, husbands, uncles & co-workers have done just as much and worse to women they know.  Ease up on the victim blame!

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    #2.2 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:36 PM EST
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    {"commentId":4348361,"authorDomain":"TeenaWeena"}

    Best article I've ever read. I myself frequent hotspots in NYC and find this case VERY disturbing. Sort of like those two NYU freshman girls that unwittingly died of a drug overdose and were found with homeless people a few years back.

    It's so easy to meet people in NYC but I never get into the car with someone I don't know. Breakfast at a diner to sober up and that's it.  If they really like you they'll call you later in the day. And I agree about NEVER leaving your girls, EVER. Anyone who does that is courting trouble, 'cause then you're at the mercy of whatever befalls you.  Also watch peoples behaviour: Guys with expensive cars and clothes and that throw money around a bar are on a power trip, their biggest concern is not being sweet to a girl. My friends and I would always see these idiots throwing around Cristal and Moet for a zillion dollars a bottle and we'd take the drink but keep it moving. Predators don't prey on girls in a group, they always have their eye out for the vulnerable ones, they can smell your vulnerability from a mile away. 

    As for a point of reference it's important to at least make the person your facebook and myspace friend, to confirm that they do exist, and that a group of people know them. Plus it gives you a good look into the online itneractions and groups they join, so if it feels wrong then you can just revert to only online friends or deleting/blocking them if their profiles are offensive.

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    Reply#3 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 5:10 PM EST
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    TeenaWeena,

    Great points!  I've included them in the original article to give others benefit of your great thoughts.

    Be Safe!

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    #3.1 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 6:44 PM EST
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    {"commentId":4361940,"authorDomain":"implet42"}

    Great piece thank you for putting it out there

     

    A few years ago I was that party girl, the one that was always on the move from one club or bar to the next, but I was always careful.  I never left with anyone that I didn’t come with and watched my friends’ backs as they watched mine.  One thing that I did see so often that really bothered me and made me wonder about people is girls that would get a drink and walk away from it and then come back to it 20 minutes later when none of their friends had been watching it.  During the course of that 20 minutes hundreds of people would walk by, use that table etc. with none the wiser of what could be in that drink.

     

    When I would go to clubs and bars my hand stayed on top of my drink, or if it was a bottle of beer my thumb would be over the opening, the minute I set that drink down whether it was full or not I would get a new one, is that an expensive tactic, yes but when you have creeps out there slipping things into drinks it is a necessary precaution.  If someone offers to buy you a drink go to the bar with them watch the bartender make it and take it directly from the bartender’s hand, some people may call this mind set paranoia, I call it survival.

     

    Women are prey to creeps like this and there are more than a few men that become victims too.  The fact is we are in control of our own behavior.  I don’t blame her, most people just go to have fun and don’t want to think about the bad stuff that could happen.  Having fun doesn’t mean you have to be careless, it just means you need to understand the rules of the game before playing. 

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    Reply#4 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 4:20 PM EST
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    implet42.

    Great things to do and things that I told my children in college and later life to do also.  I believe that Natalee Holloway, even though she had drank too much on her own, was slipped a date rape drug in the manner you discuss.  Same goes from drinking from a punch bowl at a party or from someone's "special" bottle of open booze.  Common sense is needed when you are out and about, and if you don't practice this, you can easily become a victim.

    Another thing to do, should you decide to leave with someone other than your friend (usually a bad idea though) is to have your friend use her cel phone to take a picture of you and the person you're leaving with.  Then he knows that someone else not only knows he left with you, but that you have his picture.

    Thanks for reading and for your input.  Your wisdom hopefully kept you safe.

    regards,

    CVZ 

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    #4.1 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 6:28 PM EST
    {"commentId":4374281,"authorDomain":"tudutoo"}

    I made the mistake a leaving my drink ONCE.  I was with friends at a local bar in Chicago, but that didn't stop someone from slipping GHB into my drink.  Soon after I returned to my bar stool and resumed drinking my FIRST cocktail, I began to fade out.  My friends told me later that I was talking, but that I was falling and unable to walk.  Thank God they all left the bar, got into a cab WITH me and took me home.  They then tried to care for me but since I was "verbal" I convinced them that I would be okay.  My friends were not aware of the GHB issue, I was completely blacked out inside and have no memory of anything that transpired.  I awoke the next day around 2 p.m. on the floor outside of my bathroom.  Apparently, not that I know this for sure, I had tried to navigate my way from my bed to the bathroom.  In that attempt, I must have been attempting to steady myself because the towel bar an toilet paper dispenser were torn out of the walls.  My sink was had blood on it and spatters were on my toilet.  I urinated on myself and, apparently, passed out on the floor.  My lip and jaw were busted, likely from hitting the sink, my head was bleeding and my entire back, buttocks, thighs and calves were bruised black and purple.  I called one of my friends who was with me the night before to help me get to the hospital.  I survived that incident.  I had friends who did not leave me and tried everything to help me.  I am one of the lucky ones that did not go into respiratory arrest which is a common side effect of GHB.  My little brother was not so lucky with his experience and ended up on a respirator in the hospital for 4 days.  Since then I DO NOT take drinks from strangers, I DO NOT leave my drink with ANYONE, EVER!  I never have and never will leave the bar with ANY stranger be it female or male.  I stay close to home and know each and every cop, bartender, manager, valet and management staff of my favorite restaurant venues.  I cannot over state the need to be constantly aware of your surroundings and the people within that environment.  That goes for everyone, not just the ladies.  Be well and stay safe!!!

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    #4.2 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:49 PM EST
    {"commentId":4587407,"authorDomain":"booshes67-freak"}

    Unfortunately I know and once dated a gal that was a "blackout drunk".  There was no slipped drugs, no binge drinking, no date rape pills, no nothing.  She simply went past her limit, seemed fine, but totally could not remember the rest of the evening.  When I mentioned to her later that we casually left together, stopped at another bar to use the restroom, went to a drive through for food, and that we arrived at my place where I tucked her in.....she had no clue whatsoever...as if the aforementioned events never happened.  If Garza was not a typical drinker, or Holloway for that matter, they could have been blackouts, who seemingly looked to be in control, but were not.  I've seen it!

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    #4.3 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:43 PM EST
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    {"commentId":4362627,"authorDomain":"fooqu"}

    Not sure I agree with the idea that those persons who have found themselves connected to a possible crime by association with the criminal deserve to have their names and faces put out there. We don't know that they are not being co-operative with authorities. To suggest that releasing their names and photos might compel them to be more forthcoming assumes they are holding something back . We don't know anything about their roles, and more than likely, if police believed they were involved they would have indicated as such. No doubt if they come to believe these individuals are guilty in some way they will not hesitate to accuse them.

    I think most of us are curious to know the identity of the other man who was seen leaving the club with Mele and Garza. We'd also like to know something more about the girlfriend. How long has she been involved with Mele? What does she know about his past? What exactly did she see when she showed up at the apartment? All of this information will add to the sensation and give us even more to talk about; but should we have the right to this information if these people were themselves tricked, just like Laura Garza? If they didn't know anything and were in no way involved why should they be linked just to satisfy our curiosity?

    By all means if they are guilty of knowing about Mele's past and they are holding things back in order to try to protect him, out them in the hope that doing so will make them more co-operative with police so that Laura Garza's remains can be found if she has indeed been killed. However, if they knew nothing about his criminal past, or knew about his past but weren't aware of his present criminal activities their names should not be maligned, nor their right to privacy violated.

    As far as the girlfriend's involvement in helping Mele remove and dump the carpet from his apartment, admittedly, if he was acting as strangely as the superintendent who allegedly observed him at the dumpster say he was acting, she should have noticed something strange herself. It's hard to imagine she didn't find it suspicious that he was pulling up the carpeting. Only someone naive would think she was helping her boyfriend remove and dump the carpet as a result of him spilling clorox; but some women are naive and trusting and do believe everything their boyfriends tell them. Besides that, even if she might have suspected something was up, she probably would never have imagined it had anything to do with a murder. Calling for her identity to be revealed without knowing anything about her involvement in the crime doesn't seem all that reasonable.

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    Reply#5 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 5:05 PM EST
    {"commentId":4363809,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

    FOOQU,

    I agree that as watchers of such cases, we many times try to get too much information that is not our business.  It's a good "hammer" for police to keep the two names to themselves, this to keep these two talking and as a velvet covered brick that they know can be used, in this case their names released and forever linked with this case.  I have seen many significant others turn their heads away or just try not to think too deeply about something their "other" is involved in.  Think of the women who know their husbands, etc., are molesting their child/children, but ignore the fact to keep "peace" in the family.  I'm sorry they are so emotionally weak that they let something like that go on, but what a terrible price for the child to pay to see "peace" in the family.

    Thanks for reading and writing.

    Be Safe!

    CVZ

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    #5.1 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 6:32 PM EST
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    {"commentId":4365359,"authorDomain":"mbbrown12"}

    I am 60 yrs old, and at a cocktail party at my parents own house when I was 21, someone slipped LSD into my scotch and soda. It took 4 men to hold me down for 2 hours. ( luckily parents were not home) This was not a drug using group....except one ....that's all it took, Someone's date thought it would be funny to get the hostess stoned! 40 years later....I still keep my drink (diet pepsi now!!) firmly in my hand!!!

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    Reply#6 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 8:54 PM EST
    {"commentId":4365439,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

    Maureen,

    You're lucky you survived and your's is a story that all can learn from.  Watch that diet pepsi though, at our age it can keep us up all night...

    Seriously, this is something our children and grandchildren need to hear over and over again as it's so easy for someone to do to them what was done to you.

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    #6.1 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 9:02 PM EST
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    {"commentId":4371693,"authorDomain":"sickoflivinginfear"}

    I'm so sick of hearing what women should do differently in these situations. Why should we have to live in fear? It's the men who need to change.

    How about instead of advisories about how women should behave in order to avoid being raped and killed by men, we hear advisories about how men should be taught that women are human beings, not objects who exist for male pleasure.

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    Reply#7 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:28 AM EST
    {"commentId":4374440,"authorDomain":"tudutoo"}

    Remember, not only women are victimized in this way.  If, and we don't know this for sure as yet, Ms. Garza was given any sort of "Mickey" in her drink, she would have been unaware of anything happening around her and certainly unaware of her own activities.  It is well known that Jeffrey Daughmer (sp?) drugged his "male" victims before gaining control of them and taking them to his place.  I believe that while the majority of these predators may be men, by demographic evidence on file, ANYONE is capable of being this mean and maniacal, regardless of their gender.  It is very important that we KNOW the people we hang out with and with whom we associate. 

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    #7.1 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:58 PM EST
    {"commentId":4375163,"authorDomain":"mathildaebencat"}

    I totally agree with you that the burden is put on the women. It is accepted that men are violent, and it is somehow women who are responsible for not being caught. I agree that women need to be taught to protect themselves, and I do believe these women may have been naive. But why does every time something like this happen an article comes out warning women, telling women what to do, what not to do, what not to wear, etc. etc. Why does no one ever write the article asking people to not be criminals. Is a grown man who leaves a bar alone late at night just as culpable if he ends up gang raped as a woman would be? I honestly don't think anyone would look at that situation and say oh well he should have known better. We accept women as victims in this society and its wrong.

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    #7.2 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:37 PM EST
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    {"commentId":4374038,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

    sickoflivinginfear,

    Pls reread my last paragraph before my update where I put the blame where it belongs, on men who believe they are entitled to whatever they want.  The cruel reality is that men usually have greater upper body strength than women, therefore this, coupled with greater weight and, in some cases, a predator spirit, means that they can physically overpower a woman if they are not constrained by moral values and the law.

    Your position is correct, men should not be predators of women, but in the world of cruel realities a woman still needs to know how to protect herself until all men believe as you suggest.  I'm sorry you're sick of hearing this, but women need to know how to avoid Mr. Wrong if they at all can.

    Be Safe!

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    Reply#8 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:37 PM EST
    {"commentId":4378661,"authorDomain":"miamuse"}

    Sex offenders should be executed. It seems to be the only affective rehab.

    Maria Dziubla

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      Reply#9 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:04 PM EST
      {"commentId":4379475,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

      Maria,

      I've always been an advocate of a 1 strike law for sex offenders.  After the first offense they have life in prison, no matter what it costs us to build new prisons...

      Be Safe!

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      #9.1 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:10 PM EST
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      {"commentId":4378796,"authorDomain":"scotth"}

       I work for one of the local dealerships on dealers rowe in Middletown. I have on many occasions eaten at the franchise owned by Michael Mele. On one sit down lunch I pointed out to my 20 year old son the fact that Mele was only about a year or so older, worked a long hour schedule and dedicated his time to creating a lifestyle any young man would be proud of. I told my son of the cars, the money, and the upperclass lifestyle that could be his if he would just set a goal and never give up until he achieves it. Mr. Mele gave my son positive feedback and made each visit to his franchise a welcome experience. I am a very seasoned, street smart man, with friends on both sides of the law and never saw this comming. I was sickened to think that I wanted my son to follow Mr. Mele's lead and be like him. If I was unable to sense Mele had such serious issues no poor unsuspecting young woman would ever stand a chance in recognizing the danger ahead. Boy was I bluffed. Also the phone call from Mele to his friend stating Garza was reported missing long before she actually was could be explained like this. Mele had Ms. Garzas phone and listened to her voice mails to see what if anything her friends were saying and how much they knew. Im sure a friend would say "if you dont call me back right now Im gonna report you missing" that being said triggered Mele into telling his friend she was reported missing. HMMM  This is in the hands of our Higher Power now ,and I love my son just the way he is.

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      Reply#10 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:12 PM EST
      {"commentId":4379534,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

      E. Scott,

      A good lesson in life for your son as some people are not who they seem on the surface.  I would suggest that with women there would be some emotional leakage, i.e., some part of his personality would start to bleed through, espically the power, dominance and control aspect.  Again it takes time to get to know someone, a reason I told all of our adult childred to get to know someone through at least 4 seasons before they considered marriage.  A year gives you the chance to see him/her in many situations, and notice how they let their guard down.  In the case of my daughter, I told her to see how a guy she dated treated his parents and waitresses in a cafe and how he talked about his former girlfriends and bosses.  All ways to measure how he would eventually react to her.

      Best!

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      #10.1 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:15 PM EST
      {"commentId":4561890,"authorDomain":"justask04"}

      I too frequently went into Quiznos for lunch as I work in Middletown as so did many of my co-workers.  Actually how ironic that was that you wanted your son to follow in his footsteps.  I was going to introduce a co-worker of mine (actually could be considered a Britney Spears look a like) to Mike Mele and bragged the same way you did of his looks, money and how well he was doing at a such a young age.  I was shocked to hear this happen.  Me and the co-worker were so spooked after two days in a row we went into Quiznos looking for him and I was told he was on a "local vacation".  This could have been my co-worker.  As the saying goes this is a wolf in sheep's clothing.  Such a shame his life too is over!

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        #10.2 - Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:29 PM EST
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        {"commentId":4382887,"authorDomain":"spiritnorth"}
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        {"commentId":4383199,"authorDomain":"mieoux"}

        Women out there, we've had enough of these tragedies, and while Mele should be taken out back and shot, we women also need to take responsibility for our own safety and not take risks that are totally unnecessary. Women, we should not go home with a man we don't know and we should not get into a car for a ride home with a man or men we don't know. This is a risk that is completely unnecessary to take. I am just shocked that Laura didn't know of these two rules which are basic life rules, especially for women. Don't go home with strangers, don't ride home with strangers, remember this for yourselves and instill this in your daughters. You can exchange numbers and call each other the next day.

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          Reply#12 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:06 AM EST
          {"commentId":4383212,"authorDomain":"mieoux"}

          To Donna Doreen:

          about : "Regardless how one might prepare themselves for self-defense or pre-safety listing when socializing; when a predator wants someone; they will usually get them."

          This is actually not true, we have examples in the news of kids who have run away from would be abductors, and some without it even getting to the point of being put into the car, some with reports where the kid or kids just spotted a vehicle following them and they ran away. Yes, we can protect ourselves and teach our loved ones to protect themselves, we are not helpless against predators.

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            Reply#13 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:10 AM EST
            {"commentId":4408680,"authorDomain":"elinordiana"}

            What an incredibly slimy, duplicitous and disgusting piece of human. I have trouble believing the friend, however. Reports state that the friend mentioned Mele and Garza were "laughing and kissing" . When would this be? In the car? Could this be a possible cover-up and could Laura have passed out not realizing she was going 70 miles from the city? As naiive as she was, Mele most likely lied about the distance. His raging anger issues against women only point to the obvious. With his lawyers immediately in tow, the question of his father's dealing in this situation (vehicle, potential body disposal) will come into play in the next few weeks. I hope this situation resolves quickly, and that Mele is punished to the severest extent of the law.

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            Reply#14 - Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:33 PM EST
            {"commentId":4437407,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

            Elinor,

            It appears that Mele was probably protected by his family and his father's past employment for many years.  When they should have sought psychological help for him they may have instead turned their heads so not to see and hear.  This stands to be a terrible crime, but one that could, unfortunately, perhaps have been anticipated due to his past abberant history.

            Be Safe!

            CVZ

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            #14.1 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:37 PM EST
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            {"commentId":4459684,"authorDomain":"s-latourette"}

            As there is no way to cure a repeated sex offender I agree that the one strike sex offense should be a federal law.  It should not be left up to the states.  Look at regular kidnapping and those charges.  If they commit murder they get less time then for kidnapping.  Same goes for rape.  I was in a court room once where a father got 15 years for molesting his children and would serve only  5 or so with the remainder on probation.  The childrens lives were dammaged for far more than 15 years I would think. The punishment definitely did not fit the crime.  They should be locked up as records show they are not cured or rehabbed from this illness.  God Bless the family and I hope for peace for them.  Be safe.

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            Reply#15 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:07 AM EST
            {"commentId":4462584,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

            sil,

            No argument and in fact complete agreement from me.  As a child kidnap victim myself, I have always believed that such offenders need to be off the street for life.  No one needs more than one chance to understand you do not rape and murder.  Raise my taxes for more prison for sexual predators and I'd be glad to pay the increase.

            Regards,

            CVZ

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            #15.1 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:30 AM EST
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            {"commentId":4505811,"authorDomain":"NYCM"}

            Thank you, Mr. Van Zandt for posting this article. I think that every young NYC woman should read it, as well as be aware of the very real dangers that are out there for all of us.

            During college, a friend of mine had way too much to drink, so we put her in a cab and she was driven home. Somehow, we are unsure of exactly what happened, she was let out in the wrong place, and must have been picked up by someone else, who assaulted her. Thankfully, she was not killed, and although we advised her to go to the police, she decided not to.

            Since then, I can not stop feeling so guilty for not going home with her that night, to make sure that she was OK. It is not enough to secure a ride home for your friends. When you go out with a group of people, you must STAY with that group of people, until everyone is home safe and sound. I know that now, but it wasn't always this way.

            As some of your readers stated, I used to love the party scene, and going out to clubs and bars in the city and drinking was a weekly occurrence. My friends and I have practiced very unsafe behaviors, such as drinking too much and blacking out, and laughing about it the very next day together. It makes me so sad to think that any one of us could be Laura Garza. I do not think that it is just because she was a naive girl, new to New York, that she got herself into this position. Many young girls, like myself and my friends, who have lived in NY for our whole lives, are naive enough to think along the lines of, "That would never happen to me!". 

            So many times, we have gone out as a group, and have gotten separated from each other in one way or another. Whether it be due to the fact that someone had too much to drink, or that someone had decided to go home with a guy, the fact is that it is stupid and dangerous.

            I am relieved to say that I am a little older now and am perhaps wiser, being that I do not party as much with my friends as I once did, and if we do go out, we don't have too much to drink and always stay together. I truly hope that young girls realize that there are predators out there, and that the danger of being assaulted, or even killed, is a very real threat.

            Thank you so much for writing this article, I can just hope and pray that young women everywhere will learn that it is OK to go out and have a fun time with your friends, as long as they do it safely.

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            Reply#16 - Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:17 PM EST
            {"commentId":4506721,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

            NYC M,

            Somehow we do tend to repeat history and each of us must learn most of the lessons in life by living them out ourselves.  When we are young we think we are bullet proof, nothing can happen to us, nothing, that is, until it strikes us down.

            I'm glad you made it through that difficult time and hope that you can forewarn others.

            Be Safe!

            CVZ

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            Reply#17 - Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:06 PM EST
            {"commentId":4507453,"authorDomain":"okeefester3"}

            I believe the friend. As I mentioned above, Mele was CHARMING. We are really not that far from the city an hours train ride...many of us commute there daily. I don't doubt at all that Garza went willingly with Mele. I just wish she hadn't.

            I'm so disappointed now that substantial snow has fallen. The odds are against us now...

            Also, what compels a parent to speak or not? Caylee Anthonys grandmother was all over the news a few months ago...and Meles parents, friends and lawyers are tight lipped. I understand why they are, but I do not understand why others speak. Did Caylees grandmother really believe her daughter was innocent and Meles parents don't? Is that the difference?

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            Reply#18 - Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:36 PM EST
            {"commentId":4507947,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

            Jen

            I think Cindy Anthony liked the media attention and that she felt some responsibility for what she may have believed really happened to Caylee and to show solidarity with Casey she went out of her way to support her.  In the case of the Meles, there is nothing the parents can do with his record and the facts of the case, therefore silence is probably the best policy, otherwise they must answer questions as to why they didn't stop him or seek help for him.

            CVZ

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            #18.1 - Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:42 PM EST
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            {"commentId":4561749,"authorDomain":"FindLauraGarza"}

            Hello!

            My name is Sue...and I have started a MySpace site for Laura. Please join us and let us know if ANYONE has information. Mr. Van Zandt, this article is wonderful. I thank you for including Laura's story in your column.

            God Bless the Garza Family!

            Sue

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            Reply#19 - Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:12 PM EST
            {"commentId":4587387,"authorDomain":"r0s4ri0"}

            Great article.  Very valuable information. 

            Regardless of the fact that men should not prey on women, they do.  Information is our weapon, ladies.  Let's use it to protect ourselves, our families and our friends. 

            We should not be afraid to be rude to a man who is showing us too much (or unwanted) attention or offering unsolicited "help". If he's really a nice guy, he'll back off when you ask him to.  If not, beware!

            About a decade ago, I was at a dance club in Jacksonville, FL with 2 girlfriends.  I was drinking but I wasn't being crazy or reckless (or so I thought).  I left my drink unattended while dancing and I believe something was put in my drink by a guy who was trying to talk to me before I went out on the dance floor.  He seemed nice (of course).  There are blocks of time from that night I simply cannot recall but I hadn't consumed enough alcohol to explain the memory loss.  In fact, on my worse nights of drinking, I can remember things even if they are "fuzzy".  But that night, I lost time. Scary!

            I left the bar w/my friends (we would NEVER have let each other leave w/a stranger period).  They took me home and put me to bed.  I woke up around 3pm the next day.  It was a very odd experience.  I didn't want to seem like a drama queen but I had the strangest feeling that I'd been drugged.  It happened so casually that I never suspected a thing.  I never thought twice about taking a big swig of my drink after dancing even though my girlfriends were on the dance floor w/me and my drink was on the table by the guy who'd been chatting me up.

            I like what one person wrote about putting your thumb over the opening of your beer bottle or your hand over your glass.  Most importantly though, she was right.  Never leave your drink and/or never drink a drink that you have left unattended.  Just being aware of the dangers out there can us be cognizant of how we behave. 

            I pray for Laura and her family.  This is a horrible thing.  I agree that she is NOT to blame in any way, shape or form.  But, if she did make mistakes that made it easier for a ruthless predator to victimize her, then the least we can do is learn from them. 

            Kem

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            Reply#20 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:42 PM EST
            {"commentId":4588438,"authorDomain":"dujcanhollad"}

            In reality, only about 1% of cases where a woman thinks someone slipped her a "mickey," did in fact anything get placed in her drink.  Most cases are simply blackout episodes as mention by an earlier poster.  Seriously ladies, the stuff is hard to get and 99.99% of men would never do something like that to you anyways.  Personal responsibility is the issue.  If you are a blackout drunk, maybe you should consider not drinking.  I have several close female friends who are wonderful people, but give them alcohol. and LOOKOUT!!!  They become animals and remember nothing the next day.  These behaviors usually manifest themselves in the mid-twenties, same age as most club goers.  Coincidance?  If you are so paranoid that someone is out to get you every time you set foot outside; your narcissism has gotten the better of you and it's time to see  a shrink.    

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              Reply#21 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:56 PM EST
              {"commentId":4588631,"authorDomain":"katcelata"}

              Your advice about taking precautions is invaluable, but WHAT was this guy doing still on the streets? He is a predator who had proven that he would offend again and again. A young naive woman can try to be aware and careful, but will be no match for someone like this, it was the law's responsibility to have him behind bars. I also believe, based on the fact that Ms. Garza was not apt to drink much, or leave with a stranger, that this lowlife probably put something in her drink- it is so hard for a woman to protect herself when the cards are so stacked in the bad guy's favor....

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              Reply#22 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:10 PM EST
              {"commentId":4593873,"authorDomain":"dujcanhollad"}

              Since my first post got deleted, I'll post again.

              Get over yourselves.  Less than 1 in ten thousand "reported" cases of GHB or a mickey being slipped into someones drink are genuine.  It is an extremely RARE occurence.  It's just not that easy to come by to begin with.  Secondly, most men (99.9999%) are NOT inclined to do such a thing.  On the other hand, cases of young women experiencing blackout drunken experiences is at its peak in the 17 to 28 age range.  Hmmmm, can't be my fault and lack of personal responsibility can it?  No, somebody must have slipped me something.  Right.  We think highly of ourselves don't we?  Contrary to what Mommy and daddy told you, you are not that special.  Delusional narcisissim is what you've got, not a roofie.  Grow the fark up.

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                Reply#23 - Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:49 AM EST
                {"commentId":4617556,"authorDomain":"mykittyspearls"}

                About 20 years ago, my friends and I were in the city and ended up at a club where I met a very charming newly arrived Irish guy. We danced and flirted, and I was all set to hang out, but my girls took me out of the club because they were all ready to leave, but not before we exchanged phone numbers though. We talked several times over the next couple of weeks, getting to know one another. I thought. He asked me to come in and go to see a concert with him, so I did. I had his numbers, I knew his name. It was a public place. My friends knew. This was before cell phones and facebook and the internet.  

                We met at a restaurant near the piers, and I had nothing alcoholic to drink, but he had a couple of shots. Nothing that made me suspicious. We went to the concert, had a great time, and it was time for me to go back and get the train. It wasn't late, since the last train home was at 11ish. We took a taxi to mid-town, and he said he'd walk me to Grand Central, but let's stop & have a drink first. I was fine with that, so we stopped in a pub, I ordered a coke and went to the bathroom. When I came back, I took a long drink, and it tasted funny so I said something, and he told me he had them put a shot of whiskey in there to soften the ride home. I wasn't too happy about that, and told him so; he apologized. The next thing I remember is waking up, naked and bruised in some disgusting hotel, with my clothes ripped and all of my money gone. I was disoriented and obviously had been physically and sexually assaulted. I had no idea what to do, I was terrified and traumatized. I just wanted to go home. I pulled myself together & got to GC, and had to wait until I could get a ticket from Traveler's Aide to go home. I never told anyone about that incident, in fact, I had put it completely out of my mind for years because I could not forgive myself for allowing myself to be victimized like that. I thought it was my fault. I suppose there are some who might say it was, but I know better. Now.  

                Predators come in all shapes, sizes and nationalities. Laura made a deadly choice, and there is no doubt in my mind, if she was conscious, she was being terrorized by Mele. If he did such heinous acts in public, imagine what he would do behind closed doors, with no place for his victim to get away.

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                Reply#24 - Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:16 PM EST
                {"commentId":4747615,"authorDomain":"okeefester3"}

                Anita - I am sorry for what happened to you and can only begin to imagine the trauma, but how would you feel if your attacker had gone on to kill someone and you had never reported him? I wish more women would report these things.

                Unfortunately in this case, reporting did not help. It is a horrific shame.

                I think sex offenders should be tattoo'd on their foreheads. Aren't there enough facts out their on the lack of "rehabilitation" for these guys? Why are the rest of us put at risk?

                January 10th and they are still looking for her....

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                  #24.1 - Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:08 AM EST
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                  {"commentId":4669642,"authorDomain":"lar-jan"}

                  Well, I might be showing my age but I remember dating and it was not common for a woman to be out partying in bars until the wee hours of the morning without an escort!  Friends are helpful but let's face it they are out there to have fun and meet people on their own.  Hopefully they have a woman's back but not necessarily.  A woman who is with a date is not going to be harassed by a sexual predator.  Women need to really re-think their drinking habits as well.  If you have problems with having more than one or two drinks you need to STOP.  The comments about covering your drink, etc..etc.. are helpful but the whole club situation needs to be re-evaluated.  Are these the only places to go have fun?  Seems that most of the cases we have heard from on the media involve bars and drinking.  Obviously women are vulnerable in other places as well such as hiking alone or running alone but these bars seem to be natural hunting grounds for predatory males.  Maybe young singles of both sexes need to re-consider all night partying in strange places.

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                  Reply#25 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 11:41 AM EST
                  {"commentId":4771944,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

                  Bighorn,

                  As someone long removed from the dating scene, I do recall the bar scene in Chicago and how such were the places to meet others of your own age group.  Most are looking for fun and, perhaps, Mr./Ms. Right.  You are right though; sexual predators know where to look for potential victims also.

                  Best,

                  CVZ

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                  #25.1 - Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:14 AM EST
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                  {"commentId":4747654,"authorDomain":"okeefester3"}

                  Clint - the carpet found on 17 was not 1/4 mile from his shop, it was quite a few more than that. The shop is about 9 miles from Bloomingburg.

                  I believe it was reported that the location was about 1/4 mile from the girlfriends house which would be more accurate.

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                  Reply#26 - Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:12 AM EST
                  {"commentId":4772001,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}

                  Jen O,

                  Thanks.  Based upon your note I have corrected the article.

                  Best,

                  CVZ

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                  #26.1 - Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:30 AM EST
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